CLWBFWD PART 3

Tubemitre profile stuck to steel tube.

 

Tubemitre marked up on fork extension piece. The black line is above the blue lines where I cut with a hacksaw.

 

 

Very temporary arrangement with the bottom bracket tube taped to the fork extension

2 views of the...

clamping before brazing which tries to get everything square.

Brazing done. The donor bikes mudguards can be seen in the background.

Frame without seat.

The first time I went further than round the block. When the power was out one morning I went to a local caf and also to the nearby church op shop.

The bike in current form. I'm currently overhauling the tailbox.

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After some work, my compact longwheelbase, moving bottom bracket front wheel drive bike is now on the road. It works way better than the proof of concept bike I had several months ago, and I am (gingerly) using the bike for regular commuting and shopping and junk hauling tasks. Post test rides, I have changed the brake position and fitted a 180mm disc brake rotor.

 There's still a way to go with this. The fork is quite heavy, the bottom bracket looks slightly out of alignment and there's the occasional clunking, but overall I'm pleased. Will report more soon and get some better photos.

 

 

CLWBFWD part 2

 

Quite a short post compared to my last effort!  The bike discussed in my last post has been progressing albeit slowly. For a new version of the bike which should look less contraptiony, I ordered in some new parts. They arrived while I was away for a few weeks, and I have been adapting the frame I have already to take those parts. The parts are a fatbike  / ebike / aheadset fork and an aheadset. 

 The aheadset was a pleasant surprise, and the first headset with sealed bearings I've seen. Sealed bearings are in bottom brackets, front and back wheels, and derailleur pulleys. Mainly they help exclude muck, but in this case they would also help in a travel bike where headset disassembly is part of the packing down for transport.

I didn't have the right sized holesaw for the job so used one that was undersized and filed away till the aheadset bearing housings were a snug fit. For marking out the target circle and filing I used a 3d printed guide.

 Very happy with the result and I'm keen to get going again with building CLWBFWD MKII.

 Update August 29

 I've put some work in over the last few days and my new bike is coming along well. Today I roughed out 2 parts that will end up as the steerer and bottom bracket support, and updated my drawing (its still a bit rough!) of the completed bike. I had to saw away part of the bottom bracket shell to get it to come out, and some unwanted donor frame bits are on their way to recycling. pics below. 

 

 

 

Compact Long Wheelbase Front Wheel Drive

 

Unmodified Cruzbike Quest in the 

forest near Aireys Inlet

 

For more than a year now I have been experimenting with riding and upgrading front wheel drive, moving bottom bracket Cruzbike Quests. Although I once made a Cruzbike Kit moving bottom bracket bike, this current bout of enthusiasm for mbb's has been my longest. Working with Cruzbikes has made me more confident with disc brakes, and moving bottom bracket front wheel drive, and unafraid of using these in bikes I make. I'm already quite comfortable with tailboxes, and both my Cruzbikes have been upgraded with tailboxes I've built, plus dynamo front lighting. As well I've made a custom chainstay to alter bottom bracket height. For me, tailboxes are a no-brainer on recumbent bikes, and their load carrying capacity transform the bikes from exercise machines to practical transport.

Quest with wooden tailbox with decoration from old t-shirt

2nd tailbox built is lighter and intended to be more aerodynamic

High bottom bracket chainstay is the latest mod to the "fast" tailbox Quest.

 

Its worth stopping here and maybe see what is for and against my current Cruzbikes and current leaning trikes - I'm trying to make a best of both worlds bike, somewhere in between my leaning trikes and the Cruzbike.

Daily driver, this was what I still ride regularly for load carrying, but it has..... 

 

existed in other forms including this 2 wheeled bike version. This was its hour of glory and I rode it to win an OzHpv challenge seniors division title. Glory days were not to last as the rear wheel frame later broke!

Probably the reason I'm riding Cruzbikes is their engaging ride. Because arm force is used to resist leg force when riding, they take a certain amount of subconscious mental effort to ride, which induces an enjoyable flow state: the Wikepedia entry describes it, "One is most likely to experience flow at moderate levels of psychological arousal, as one is unlikely to be overwhelmed, but not understimulated to the point of boredom". Before regularly riding Cruzbikes, I got the same feeling from riding a bike while wheeling another at the same time, a regular occurrence when ferrying bikes for Wecycle.

So the biggest problem I had with the Quests I have fixed, and that is load carrying. But the problems remaining are

*  Right shoulder soreness. Its only since riding Cruzbikes regularly that I've had this, and I can feel my shoulder twinge when playing pool, putting in effort when paddling (surfing) and even reaching for the alarm clock. I'm not sure its related to the Cruzbike, but I can't think of anything else that could be causing it.

* Hard to get on and off. On my long wheelbase bikes I can swing my legs over onto the pedals as I'm running along launching the bike. Although a vastly different bike, the  Rans X-Stream has this quality too. On the Cruzbike the steerer stem is just too close in for legs to swing over.

* Its necessary for the handlebars to be quite wide on these bikes, and therefore slightly less aerodynamic due to a wide hand position. Having a wide handlebar helps make leverage for the arms and reduces arm strain.

But the good points are its manouvreability, that it can be folded up for carrying in a suitcase, and that there is a good amount of weight on the front wheel which helps traction. 

On the other hand, in my long wheelbase bikes there is little or no (engaging / shoulder wrecking!) force from steering in the arms, the front drive wheel is lightly loaded and can slip, and although the bike does separate, it stays in fairly big and wouldn't fit in a suitcase. And manoeverability is crap, you can't pedal and do much steering at the same time. But the handlebars are quite narrow which keeps things tight and aero.

So to cut to the chase, in my spare time a few months ago, I started building a new front for my leaning trike. Work has been a bit haphazard up till recently, but now I have a bit more time and something to show! I have actually built something like this before, it was a short lived machine

 

First version of forks without brakes. There is a spacer / open washer brazed in on the drive (lower in the pic) side dropout, and this is to ensure the chain doesn't rub on the fork.

At this stage I put things together but didn't actually ride this version.

 

 After making the parts and the layout machine, I did some 2d cad drawings to estimate where things might go. I realised that the handlebars had to be elevated to allow me to swing my legs through, and having some dimensions to guide assembly would help.

 

After that, I started work on a rideable, relatively solid version. I still used the flaky bottom bracket though!  

 

So this version took me around the block once! By the time I'd put it together, I had added a brake to the back of the fork - the intention is to have one V and one disc brake on the front wheel for the final version.  This one was sort of cobbled together and after riding it, I drew up what the final version might look like. Some inspiration came from my son's Surly longtail - for the child's handlebars on the back they just use a 28.6 mm seat tube which is the same diameter as most threadless fork tubes - so standard steerer components (ie stems) just fit automatically. I found a few parts in the shed and on bikes which were compatible. The next bigger standard tube OD is 31.8mm, and I had a few tubes that size as well. Today 2 bikes were donated to Wecycle, an orange and a red one. The orange bike was donor of a few parts to the red one, which my friend Myy fixed up. And I took the orange one home with the intention of using the seat - tube and bottom bracket or down - tube and bottom bracket parts in the new build. I've also ordered a new fork with built in disc brake mounts - see how we go with that.

 

 

 

Potential new moving bracket layout and 

an equivalent fixed bottom bracket bike. These are about 220mm shorter than the current fixed bottom bracket version, as the crank and seat are shoved forward, so the rear wheel frame can be shorter.

Update July 6

Today I went up to the local cafe on the bike and it went surprisingly well. I can get on and off it smoothly when its rolling and accidentally took a less cautious route there which involved some road riding. After I'd just left the cafe, a friend called me to say some stuff I'd left behind was in her letterbox. So I said I'd go and pick it up then. The extra 2-3k of riding were welcome, and I rode them cautiously on bike paths. Going up a short steep hill it started making strange noises and I discovered soon after the bottom bracket was creeping sideways. But I got home fine with more cautious riding.

Noooooooo!

 

Regards

 

Steve Nurse